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Points-based scoring leagues?

April 13, 2008

Question:Why are points-based leagues often scoffed at? Well, let’s start with the basic formula.

The foundation for all points-based fantasy leagues is its scoring formula.

This formula can be as simple as 1 point for each point scored, rebound, and assist, or as complex as Allen Iverson’s cornrows. However, many people complain that points-based scoring does not accurately reflect player performances, no matter how complex the formula.

I disagree. John Hollinger’s Player Efficiency Rating (PER) has been widely accepted as a valuable tool for measuring a player’s contributions. Of course, you can’t really use PER for fantasy purposes because it includes several variables that fluctuate throughout the season.

However, Hollinger also has a Game Scores formula, which is “designed to be a convenient way to evaluate single-game performances.” I’m surprised more people don’t talk about this formula, because it seems like a fairly accurate way to measure player performance, which I assume is the goal for most fantasy leagues. Here is the formula:

Hollinger’s Game Scores formula:

Point scored: +1 point
FG attempt: -.7 points
FG make: +.4 points
FT miss: -.4 points
Off. rebound: +.7 points
Def. rebound: +.3 points
Assist: +.7 points
Steal: +1 point
Block: +.7 points
Turnover: -1 point
Personal foul: -.4 points

In general, the scale on Game Scores works something like this:

50+ = A historic performance.
40-49.9 = One of the best games of the entire season.
30-39.9 = Probably the best performance in the league that night.
20-29.9 = Probable player of the game selection.
15-19.9 = A Very strong effort.
12-14.9 = Reasonably solid performance.
8-11.9 = Average.
5-7.9 = Subpar game or didn’t see many minutes.
0-4.9 = Poor game or used very sparingly.
<0 = Packing his bags for Yakima.

Here is a list of the Top 25 game scores since the ‘86-87 season.

I think Hollinger came up with a great formula. Unfortunately, there’s still a problem. Game Scores are hard to calculate quickly in your head, which is one of the main benefits of using a points-based scoring system. You want to be able to look at a players’ stat line and immediately figure out how many fantasy points he scored for you.

So I started toying around with the point values to come up with something that’s easier to calculate, but still close to the Game Scores formula. Here’s what I have right now:

My modified formula

Point scored: +1 point
FG miss: -1 point
FT miss: -1 point
Off. rebound: +1 point
Def. rebound: +.5 points
Assist: +1 point
Steal: +1 point
Block: +1 point
Turnover: -1 point
Personal Foul: -.5 points

I know. It’s incredibly simple, right? By bumping the .7 values up to 1 and the .3 and .4 values up to .5, it makes it much easier to calculate in your head. But does this simple formula actually compare favorably to Hollinger’s Game Scores formula?

To test it out, let’s examine the past 3 games for LeBron James. Click here to view LeBron’s game scores for each game this season. His last 3 game scores are:

4/11: 24.5
4/09: 32.4
4/05: 10.8

Now let’s calculate his “scores” using my modified formula:

4/11: 34 pts – 8 fg miss – 6 ft miss + 0 oreb + (6 x .5 dreb) + 2 ass + 3 stl + 0 blk – 3 to – (3 x .5 pf) = 23.5
4/09: 33 pts – 10 fg miss – 3 ft miss + 4 oreb + (3 x .5 dreb) + 8 ass + 1 stl + 2 blk – 0 to – (2 x .5 pf) = 35.5
4/05: 17 pts – 16 fg miss – 4 ft miss + 5 oreb + (2 x .5 dreb) + 9 ass + 2 stl + 2 blk – 5 to – (1 x .5 pf) = 10.5

As you can see, the simpler modified formula comes fairly close to matching the Game Scores formula. However, I’m sure some of you are still skeptical of it’s ability to accurately measure a player’s value, so let’s examine this season’s Top 25 players using my modified formula.

Top 25 using modified formula (per game “scores”):

1. LeBron James (26.46)
2. Chris Paul (25.03)
3. Amare Stoudemire (23.30)
4. Kobe Bryant (22.80)
5. Allen Iverson (21.49)
6. Dirk Nowitzki (20.57)
7. Deron Williams (20.44)
8. Steve Nash (20.26)
9. Kevin Garnett (20.18)
10. Yao Ming (20.14)
11. Chris Bosh (20.13)
12. Dwight Howard (20.05)
13. Carmelo Anthony (19.65)
14. Tim Duncan (19.40)
15. Carlos Boozer (19.32)
16. Baron Davis (19.24)
17. Pau Gasol (19.05)
18. Al Jefferson (18.88)
19. Caron Butler (18.83)
20. Dwyane Wade (18.82)
21. Shawn Marion (18.00)
22. Vince Carter (17.76)
23. Chauncey Billups (17.63)
24. Monta Ellis (17.49)
25. David West (17.29)

What do you notice?

The block masters (Camby and J-Smoov) have both been Top 20 Roto players this season, but neither appears on this list. Deron Williams and Monta Ellis are ranked much higher using this formula than they are under Roto scoring. You could say that Monta is penalized in Roto leagues because of his lack of threes, but his overall production and efficiency gives him a boost using this formula. In 9-cat Roto leagues that factor in FT% AND turnovers, Dwight Howard doesn’t even crack the top 75. Using this modified points-based formula, the Man-Beast ranks #12 overall, which is where he belongs.

All in all, I think these Top 25 rankings are a more accurate representation of the top players in the NBA than your Roto or Head-to-Head rankings, which is why I think points-based leagues should be given more consideration and merit from fantasy hoops fans. But the points-based fun doesn’t end there…

Bonus Points

One cool thing about points-based leagues is that you can easily add bonus points for anything that you want. I would probably add a +5 bonus for each Triple-Double as well as +1 point for each slam dunk. I know that some people will laugh at the idea of awarding 1 point for each dunk, but there’s no denying that dunks ignite the crowd and often spark key runs. Unfortunately, I’m not aware of a stat service that allows you to include dunks as a category.

Keeping the Losers Involved

One of the major problems with fantasy leagues (Roto leagues in particular) is that the people at the bottom of the standings stop caring at a certain point because they know they can’t win anything. Points-based leagues can help prevent that by offering weekly prizes to the highest scoring teams. So even if your team gets off to a miserable start, you can still win money throughout the season.

Head-to-Head replacement?

Most people consider Points-based leagues and Head-to-Head leagues as being two entirely separate entities, but that doesn’t have to be the case. It’s not our fault of course. Yahoo! tells us that we must choose one or the other, so that’s what people tend to accept. Well, not only do I think that a combination of the two is possible, but I think it would be more accurate and enjoyable than just playing standard H2H.

First of all, it would allow for a multitude of ways to calculate the standings (and league prizes). By going head-to-head, you’ll compile win-loss records, thus allowing your league to still use a playoff format if you so choose. If you want, you could even declare the overall season winner as the team with the best average +/- point differential!

Conclusion

I think that points-based fantasy hoops leagues have gotten a bad rap in the past. In terms of raw production and overall game performance, you can argue that points-based leagues are a more accurate representation of a players real-life value in comparison to Roto and H2H leagues. While I’m a big fan of John Hollinger’s Game Scores formula, I think a more simplified formula is needed so owners can look at a boxscore and immediately calculate how his players performed. Finally, I would like to explore the idea of playing in a Head-to-head points-based league next season, so if anyone is interested, just let me know!

What do you guys think?

Comments

10 Responses to “Points-based scoring leagues?”

  1. dumber on April 13th, 2008 7:07 pm

    Sign me up - I am always interested in trying new things to create a more genuine fantasy experience & it is hard to argue that your top 25 is not a truer indicator of the best nba players this year. Also I think it would be great to be in a head 2 head league with trash talk and all that but how would you make up for actual game differences throughout the week? Or will we be allowed to plug in our bench to cover off nights for our starters?

  2. Michael Procton on April 14th, 2008 8:18 am

    I’m also a big fan of points leagues, although I tried something new this year on sportsline where your team’s score for the week was the combined AVERAGE per-game score of all your guys. Keeps it balanced even if your games played are lower or higher than your opponent.

  3. Evil E on April 14th, 2008 9:36 am

    You guys bring up a key concern. But rather than combined average score, I think it should be TOTAL average score. Michael - check out the scenario below:

    Player 1: 1 game, 40 avg. score
    Player 2: 2 games, 30 avg. score
    Player 3: 3 games, 20 avg, score

    Would your league score this scenario as a team average of 30?

    I think that team’s score should be calculated as follows: (1 x 40) + (2 x 30) + (3 x 20) = 160 / 6 = 26.67. I think that may be the best way to go…

  4. Michael on April 15th, 2008 6:29 am

    i like the math on your last post. Have you seen “21″ yet? good flick. I believe my original fantasy experience several years ago was a points based head2head league on yahoo. I remember there being a heavy empahsis on guard performance. I guess it still works that way in general as guards tend to score more, steal more, assist more, have higher FT%, and more 3s, while big men only dominate rebs, blocks and FG%. I am used to 8 cat leagues, have only played with TO’s once or twice and really not in favor of them. I would be in favor of adding another cat that big men generally rule, like the fairly new BA (blocks against) category, where less is obviously more (like TO’s, but more fun in my opinion).

    I’m very interested in whatever you decide to go with. I am pretty much done with public leagues and looking for added incentive next year. Playoffs are fun because it’s more like real NBA where the best regular season does not equal championship. However, it sucks if you know the team you’re playing in the final is inferior, but you’re losing because your stars are getting benched due to trivial injuries (a la Manu Ginobili who I considered benching this week, but didn’t have the cojones to go through with it).

    Ramon Sessions, wow. Almost makes me wish i was a bucks fan so I would’ve know to play him. but not really :)

  5. Damian on April 15th, 2008 11:13 am

    CBS Sportsline leagues will be definitely more fair by using the TOTAL AVERAGE as Evil E is suggesting in the post above… for the given scenario the actual CBS rules for public leagues will lead to a score of 30 as opposed to the 26.67 which I believe, everybody should agree, is the more accurate score…

    Any suggestions for interesting (and rewarding) playoff fantasy options?

  6. dumber on April 15th, 2008 5:32 pm

    Hey Evil,

    How do you feel about limiting the fantasy season to the first 72 games to help combat the Garnett, Pierce, and Allen should all rest this game effect?

  7. Michael on April 17th, 2008 6:21 am

    That’s an interesting proposal dumber. Not sure it would’ve helped me, but I did get crushed by Kevin Durant, Jason Richardson, and Nick Collison in the finals this year, as Manu unexpectedly sat out. I got beat fair and square by a team that barely made the league playoffs. I like the practice of discovering up and comers in the final weeks of the regular season (Sessions being my favorite “if I only knew” this year), but then half those guys end up disappearing by next season.

    I’m thinking a league where the real playoffs are the fantasy playoffs. obvious problems, but could be done in such a way that the 4 fantasy playoff teams keep their playoff bound players, then all other playoff bound players are pooled into a “redraft” which takes place a day or two after the real regular season ends.

    Then employ evil’s averages formula to compensate for variations in number of games played in the playoffs. I think it could work if the fantasy playoffs last for the first two rounds of the real playoffs, but could get tricky. We would be sure to get top performance out of all non-critically injured players. However I’m not sure how consistent and fair the final round of fantasy playoffs would be, as rosters with players eliminated in round one would be drastically cut. Thoughts?

  8. Evil E on April 17th, 2008 7:39 am

    “Hey Evil, How do you feel about limiting the fantasy season to the first 72 games?”

    Considering my teams were in 1st and 2nd place after 72 games and then 2nd and 3rd place after 82 games, I like the idea! :angry:

  9. Evil E on April 17th, 2008 7:48 am

    I like the idea Mike! Using the NBA playoffs as the fantasy playoffs makes far more sense to me than using the last few weeks of the season. We should reward players on winning teams anyway, right?

    I actually don’t approve of cutting the season short to 72 games, but I think we’re all trying to come up with a solution to the major problem, which is that the top players for the first 90% of the season are not assured to be the top players for the final 10% stretch.

    One idea I just thought of is simply reducing the # of active players for the final few weeks. So for my Roto leagues, we start 12 players and have 4 on the bench. At the end of the season, we could reduce that to 8 starters and 6 bench or something like that. Not sure how much better that would be, but since more players are resting at the end, it seems like a decent idea.

  10. Thydayauthota on May 8th, 2008 3:18 am

    thank you, brother

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